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    It's been a while since the last preview of the next Web Design Forums.net design, named "WDF v5." That doesn't mean work has stopped, though. In fact, this thread has a preview--in three browsers, no less--of the tentative WDF v5 home page, along with new features that will be implemented.

    WDF v5's code is now segmented across 10 CSS files in which only the necessary CSS for any given page will be loaded. The entire original (i.e., non-vBulletin-generated) part of the design uses full semantic markup with all style defined in CSS. In fact, the markup (HTML) for this index page is 238 lines, much of which is just the raw text shown in the sample "post of the day."

    As you can see, the page renders quite well in Firefox 1.0.6, Internet Explorer 6 (there is now a possibility of testing WDF in a developer edition of Windows Vista), and Safari 2.0. In Firefox, WDF v5 renders flawlessly. Because a great deal of CSS tricks and workarounds (hacks, really) used to cater to IE, it renders quite well in IE with the only notable problem of the "password" field not displaying the text "password" due to rather unnecessary security limitations In Safari, parts actually render better than the other two browsers due to Safari's support for the CSS3 text-shadow attribute (used for some links), although there are some rendering issues yet to be resolved such as the search field not placed properly along with the award icons.

    The design is quite close to a phase where it can be incorporated into a test installation (not a public one, sorry) of vBulletin so true integration can begin and the style readied for deployment here.

    As a side note, for those of you wondering what the money generated from ads does, I used part of it to buy an old (2001) Mac from eBay to test WDF v5 in Safari. This is one way how I am ensuring the best experience possible for all users, even those in the minority of browsers and platforms.
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    Awesome Possum!
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    This is looking very nice!

    The Big Question: How can we get our grubby mitts on it so we can test it?
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    There will never be any public test for a large variety of reasons, including stability and licensing issues with vBulletin. However, as with every WDF upgrade, the moderators will be able to play around with it and offer suggestions with a sandbox environment.

    Here is WDF v5 under IE for Vista Beta 1. It would appear IE 7 still doesn't support true CSS given the warning in the footer for non-compliant browsers still shows. The warning is a div made hidden with selector syntax only available in newer versions of CSS (attribute selectors).
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    The first beta of IE7 didn't include any of the rendering fixes they plan on in the final version.
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    I think M$ has said it's not going to be fully compliant.
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    Actually, it's looking very promising. List of fixes: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx
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    Im really hoping MS does a decent job with IE7. It will make our jobs as designers much easier!

    BTW, WDF v5 is looking sweet!

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    They are saying it won't pass Acid2 but it will still be more compliant than it has been.

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    Oh I like it. And someone here has Safari like me.


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