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    I dislike CMS also.But it can save my time

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBungie View Post
    I dislike CMS also. CMS don't teach you anything nor are they ever good.
    I personally disagree. When I first started out programming I learnt a lot more from downloading scripts (mainly cms's and different modules) and looking to see how they work and how certain bits of code / functions can be actually used in a production environment as opposed to just how it works.
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    Agreed Mike, I learned a lot about templating, specifically, by working with CMSes.

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    I am a Joomla fan... Probably would be fans of other systems if I had experience too...

    CMS isn't by definition for the client's benift... I really benift from having sites which I manage for the client via the CMS... If clients can use them then that's a bonus... I charge them for training or make a selling point that they get free training. I also send them to my web design site by adding my training material there...

    How much of the CMS you use depends completely on the project...

    I for example sometimes only use the backend of Joomla... IE the part that populates the database and manages menus... and make a complete full custom front end with no native code at all...

    I love the rewrite module which kicks *** from a SEO point of view...

    Joomla even gives you the option to change texteditor - personally not a fan of tinymce to it's well worth replacing it with something a little less annoying!

    There is also no reason why some parts of the site can be CMS and others not... I normally make a modification that if an externsion file name exists to a page request (URI) then I load that into my template along with extra scripting etc...

    Once you have full command of your CMS (and PHP say) there should be no difference from a standard web site except you have the facility to manage some or all!...

    I personally don't want to spend much time mucking about with content, I want to get on with the technical stuff...

    Surely they just make everyones life more easy?? :-)

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