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    Senior Member waynarky's Avatar
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    Hi all. I run the mailing list for www.urbancrag.co.za. It is a climbing gym. The email system I use is www.webmail.co.za as I am always between computers. There is no way to hide the email addresses of people I send to.

    Some P@#%k recently stole the addresses and sent info about another gym to all my mailing list members! I am furious! Is this illegal and is there anything I can do if it happens again? I am busy writing him an email. Is there a way I can find out who this person is? the address it came from was bizafri@wol.co.za. Does anyone know of a web-based email provider that can hide the addresses? I really wanna do bad things to this person!

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    Emailing people isn't a crime. While what he did was unethical, there's not much you can do about it. It's really odd that that system can't just CC everyone. I'd go to a different email system.

    I'd search the website of the other gym and search it for that email address. Happen to have a link to the other site? I can use my 1337 m0d skillz to find out some info.
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    Can't you use a script to send the e-mails rather than webmail? Set up a php mailing list script (sure you could find many candidates at http://www.hotscripts.com), password protect that part of your website with .htaccess/.htpasswd as an extra check and then log into the script from wherever you happen to be to send to your mailing list members.

    That way each recipient will see noone other than themselves...

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    Here's one, released under GPL (ie. free)... http://design.zonenetwork.co.uk/mailtrack.php

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    excellent, thanks guys! the other gyms url is www.saclimbinn.co.za. i couldnt find that email addy anywhere.

    I recently bought a php/mysql database applications book. I havent had time to go thru it yet so i dont know php, but I will try!

    Thanks for that link, it looks promising!

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    okay it was my mistake. I usually send them all under BCC and the other day i didnt. still, isnt it a violation of our intellectual property rights as the email addresses aren't public domain? The person would obviously have taken them directly from my mail.

    What can I write on the mails from now on to prevent this?

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    Actually, an email address is considered "public domain" as it is a means of contact, as a telephone number or mailing address is. The only thing your other gym is guilty of is being a scumbucket. Other than that, you really don't have any recourse. You opened the door for him; he just walked in, wiped his feet on the carpet, left coaster stains on your coffee table and ticked off your guests.
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    bummer. Well, I sent him a stern email anyway. I also updated my privacy policy and stuff(uploading now)

    Shot for your help

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    http://www.indoorclimbing.com/southafrica.html

    See Johannesburg Gym 1 ... has the Climb Inn Randburg address with your bizafry address as the contact...

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    yeah, i checked that yesterday. At least that proves that he is from the gym and not just a fan! It also makes them look like arses to my mailing list as I emailed them all saying that some unscrupulous individual unethically aquired their email addresses.


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