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    There's a process on my computer spawned by my POS TV tuner that crashes on exit and forces me to kill it via End Process. However it won't die, it just keeps running. On OS X/Linux/Unix/etc. I could do:
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    sudo kill pid
    ...which would kill it under the root account. In Windows, I'm forced to reboot and sometimes reset the computer to make it die. I'm a computer administrator (not the administrator account). So how can I kill this freakin' thing?
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    This sounds like a hardware conflict or a corrupt driver if it's forcing you to actually hard reboot.

    You could try running taskmanager as the PC administrator - start menu -> programs -> accessories -> shift + right click command prompt and choose run as, supply the admin credentials and then run taskmgr from the prompt.

    If it won't close then there is something more fundementally wrong with the device and a reinstall/update of the software may be in order. TV Cards are pretty prone to causing these sorts of problems

    Unfortunately Task Manager isn't capable of closing everything especially if there is a conflict of some sort (IRQ, DMA etc.)

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    If that doesn't work we use a utility on our servers that allows you to view all the system processes and dependencies right down to the nth level. It also lets you modify the process priorities - if you set the priority lower it may help the kernel close it down.

    I'll find a link to it tomorrow if you need it - I can't remember the name at the moment.

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    I ran Task Manager under the administrator account, no difference.

    The reset is because the hung program is aborting the restart sequence. The computer is still perky, it just won't shutdown.

    I hate Windows stupidities like this...just kill the damn process!
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    I agree - I'll find out about the utility and post a link to download it here tomorrow.

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    I have the same problem. You using WinFast PVR Filburt? From what I've read from different forums, this software is always released with bugs. I'm looking for another PVR program at the moment, I'll let you know if I find a good one.

    Does it freeze beyond repair if you move the screen to your secondary monitor? It took me a while to remember this flaw and stop moving it around. Everytime I moved it, it lost it's picture but the sound still played, once until the BIOS finished booting.

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    there is taskkill for NT/XP command line.

    Either do "Taskkill /?" or visit this page to see the options: http://is-it-true.org/nt/xp/atips/atips29.shtml
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    Originally posted by splufdaddy
    I have the same problem. You using WinFast PVR Filburt? From what I've read from different forums, this software is always released with bugs. I'm looking for another PVR program at the moment, I'll let you know if I find a good one.

    Does it freeze beyond repair if you move the screen to your secondary monitor? It took me a while to remember this flaw and stop moving it around. Everytime I moved it, it lost it's picture but the sound still played, once until the BIOS finished booting.
    I have an ATI TV Wonder. Beyond TV (my favorite TV viewer with PVR functionality and a guide, until my trial expires tomorrow) works flawlessly. ATI's royal putrid POS TV viewer won't exit. Ever.

    I'll try it later. Looks promising, unless it's doing exactly the same thing as Task Manager:
    Code:
    C:\Documents and Settings\filburt1>taskkill /?
    
    TASKKILL [/S system [/U username [/P [password]]]]
             { [/FI filter] [/PID processid | /IM imagename] } [/F] [/T]
    
    Description:
        This command line tool can be used to end one or more processes.
        Processes can be killed by the process id or image name.
    
    Parameter List:
        /S    system           Specifies the remote system to connect to.
    
        /U    [domain\]user    Specifies the user context under which
                               the command should execute.
    
        /P    [password]       Specifies the password for the given
                               user context. Prompts for input if omitted.
    
        /F                     Specifies to forcefully terminate
                               process(es).
    
        /FI   filter           Displays a set of tasks that match a
                               given criteria specified by the filter.
    
        /PID  process id       Specifies the PID of the process that
                               has to be terminated.
    
        /IM   image name       Specifies the image name of the process
                               that has to be terminated. Wildcard '*'
                               can be used to specify all image names.
    
        /T                     Tree kill: terminates the specified process
                               and any child processes which were started by it.
    
        /?                     Displays this help/usage.
    
    Filters:
        Filter Name   Valid Operators           Valid Value(s)
        -----------   ---------------           --------------
        STATUS        eq, ne                    RUNNING | NOT RESPONDING
        IMAGENAME     eq, ne                    Image name
        PID           eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le    PID value
        SESSION       eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le    Session number.
        CPUTIME       eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le    CPU time in the format
                                                of hh:mm:ss.
                                                hh - hours,
                                                mm - minutes, ss - seconds
        MEMUSAGE      eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le    Memory usage in KB
        USERNAME      eq, ne                    User name in [domain\]user
                                                format
        MODULES       eq, ne                    DLL name
        SERVICES      eq, ne                    Service name
        WINDOWTITLE   eq, ne                    Window title
    
    NOTE: Wildcard '*' for the /IM switch is accepted only with filters.
    
    NOTE: Termination of remote processes will always be done forcefully
          irrespective of whether /F option is specified or not.
    
    Examples:
        TASKKILL /S system /F /IM notepad.exe /T
        TASKKILL /PID 1230 /PID 1241 /PID 1253 /T
        TASKKILL /F /IM notepad.exe /IM mspaint.exe
        TASKKILL /F /FI "PID ge 1000" /FI "WINDOWTITLE ne untitle*"
        TASKKILL /F /FI "USERNAME eq NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM" /IM notepad.exe
        TASKKILL /S system /U domain\username /FI "USERNAME ne NT*" /IM *
        TASKKILL /S system /U username /P password /FI "IMAGENAME eq note*"
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    Well it gives a success message and the TV tuner window closes, but the process is still running. I used the /F switch.
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    Tried with PID? In the task manager, go to "view >> Select columns" check the PID column.
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