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    What do you guys think? Can a print designer convert to become a web designer? Or are the two skillsets completely different? Let's get this debate started. :smoker:
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    What's to debate? Of course a print designer can become a web designer. It just takes some understanding. I'm sure that skills from one transfer to the other.

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    I think most print designers have a great eye for design and certainly that helps going into the web side of it.
    The only issue is being able to learn the code and trasfer that eye for design into an effective website.
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    Thanks for your time... Yes we all know that print and web designers have their own guts for designing. But what matters is, can print designers easily learn and acquire the way (including the coding, etc.) of a web designer? which is not their nature?
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    Although the concepts of print are different than the ones for the web it is not too difficult to pick them up as long as you remain diligent. There is nothing inherent in print designers that would hinder them in learning the concepts associated with webdesign, just as there is nothing inherent in your to prevent you from doing anything else. All your talking about is changing professions and/or hobbies. If you feel capable of doing this than you can.


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    What about essential programming languages? If you make a site with Front Page of Dreamweaver, with databases, user login, and multiple search and user text entries, wouldn't these sites get complicated on the long term for mentainance? Whould you suggest the study of a native webdesign language such as CSS, HTML, Javascript or XML absolutely essential?

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    Any moderately successful webdesigner has probably relized that it is far superior to 'teach' your site(s) how to maintain themsleves at least to some degree, than to have to regularly edit static pages. This can really only be achieved by using some type of server-side language such as ASP, PHP, JAVA, RUBY, etc.. as well as SQL to interact with your database. Markup languages like (X)HTML and XML are there to help describe and format the data, while CSS/XSL are there to 'transform' it into an approperate form for the user. The process by how to do all of that is by far way out of the scope of this post and what everybody here is striving to achieve.

    So to answer your question, yes for a site of any mesurable size, it would be far benificial to learn some type of server-side language that will allow you or your client to maintain the site though a browser. WYSIWYG editors like Frontpage, and Dreamweaver really dont offer the ability to incorporate dynamic content into your site without having to pop the hood and dig into the code thereby defeating the pourpose of it being WYSIWYG. They work best for small static sites.


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    So server side laguage seems absolutely MUST.
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    As a former Cliper programmer I know that in order to start working defferent code-editing together, it is essential to learn the more essential first then go to the more special and specific etc. It also healps the programmer's brain get more organised and familiar to the languages and tools. So, what would you suggest as a 2 year program? Start with HTML, step to XML, then learn CSS to format the data, then (WHAT?) for database management, Java? ASP? Javascript?
    Also something I consider a lot. Java, ASP, SQL, Javascript and all those, can they be used in combination within one same site? What is the criteria under which I would use this and not that form all those? Does the usage of the language has to do with the server software (for axample Apatche etc?)

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    Java, ASP, PHP, Rails and virtually every other development platform or server side scripting language is best alone, you COULD intermix them but that would be an excersise in insanity I think. Rather what you want to do is pick one and stick to it for a project.

    Think of it like this.. you are the director, you hire a stage manager. The stage manager is the person behind the scens of a play who is responsable that the play goes as planned, they make sure actors are in order, props go out when needed, scene changes happen as required, whatever is needed he/she is responsable for it. Your sever side scriptiong language or platform platform is that stage manager for your play, you use it to orcestrate everything so it works properly. You could try to have a play that uses mutliple stage managers but it is almost pointless and you will run into some serious issues as a result. However, rules are made to be broken and in some cases that might be what the job calls for, but that is the exception. I hope I dont come off sounding too ted stevens-ish with that anology..


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    As long as you're open to learning the differences you'll do fine.


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