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    Hi,

    i'm currently starting to think about doing a design portfolio for myself after doing some freelance work and was wondering if anyone had any ideas on what a good portfolio should look like (or what it should contain)

    any links to good portfolios for ideas would be grand.

    cheers

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    [a web design portfolio - Currently NOT AVAILABLE for work | web design | Re-coding | PSD-to-HTML]
    I'm also on: virb - facebook - twitter - flickr - del.icio.us

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    In my opinion, CSS is nice and all, but it's "design for designers" if you ask me.

    A good portfolio should be created in Flash, and created WELL. Good Flash design is something that everyone can appreciate.

    Start with a unique idea, and work from there.

    I'm currently redesigning my portfolio in Flash. The concept revolves around paper airplanes. I'll post it here when I'm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transio
    In my opinion, CSS is nice and all, but it's "design for designers" if you ask me.
    who said he had to do it in css?! i just gave him site for "ideas" ... with an idea you can create whatever you want: css, flash, whatever.
    [a web design portfolio - Currently NOT AVAILABLE for work | web design | Re-coding | PSD-to-HTML]
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    Quote Originally Posted by karinne
    who said he had to do it in css?!
    Gotcha... I guess I figured you were pushing CSS-only sites, cause of the "css*.com" names. :-P

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    This only fyi Transio, but do you know what I see when I visit a flash only website. A blank screen that's what. I work in a building where all the computers are on a secured network behind a firewall and flash objects are just blocked no argument. If I really want to see something on a flash site, I have to go out of the building I'm in, walk next door go into the lounge and try and get on one of the only two computers in the company that aren't on company network. This I have to tell you, I have only done once, and it wasn't worth it, so I probably won't be doing it again. Most of the design companies I know operate their networks this way.
    Just something to think about.
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    Sure, everyone can appreciate good Flash design, but the implication there is that not everyone can appreciate good CSS design, which is not true. Flash and CSS are technologies. The person who sees your site could care less whether it's done in Flash or CSS; what matters to them is that it look nice. While certain effects possible with Flash are not yet doable with XHTML+CSS+JS, we're getting there, and a snazzy site can be created in XHTML+CSS+JS much more easily nowadays with libraries like dojo and script.aculo.us than before.

    There's no point in learning Flash (and dishing out the money for it) if you feel comfortable making good designs in XHTML+CSS(+JS). It's a matter of personal preference, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkette
    This only fyi Transio, but do you know what I see when I visit a flash only website. A blank screen that's what.... Most of the design companies I know operate their networks this way. Just something to think about.
    Definitely something to think about. By using Flash, you're decreasing your target audience. Probably only 75% of the people looking to buy websites will have Flash enabled. But if you have a really good Flash portfolio, I'd say it's probably at least 2x as effective as a static portfolio (just from my experience). That means, it's going to give you at least 50% better results. In my personal experience, when done well, a Flash site can produce 10x + more leads than a "plain" site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfiend
    Sure, everyone can appreciate good Flash design, but the implication there is that not everyone can appreciate good CSS design, which is not true.
    Of course it's true. Great design in any medium can be appreciated by designers, but the general masses are drawn to the latest, most spectacular forms of entertainment. This can be observed in many industries.

    Flash and CSS are technologies.
    Exactly. And cinema and stage acting are forms of entertainment... why do you think most people prefer going to the movies than the theater, though?

    The person who sees your site could care less whether it's done in Flash or CSS; what matters to them is that it look nice.
    That's like saying all that matters to exotic car buyers is that a Ferrari looks nice, and not that it's actually fun to drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transio
    Exactly. And cinema and stage acting are forms of entertainment... why do you think most people prefer going to the movies than the theater, though?
    Number 1 will be accessibility, followed closely by marketing and price. There are movie theaters everywhere. Marketing for movies is extensive. And the price for a movie is relatively low, especially compared to the bigger stage productions. There's also the issue of immersion of the senses -- movies tend to be louder, amongst other things.

    That's not to mention the fact that it looks like theatre has a little stigma as far as being the venue of the intelligentsia, which is only by virtue of people believing it is. That example, I think, is flawed.

    Quote Originally Posted by transio
    That's like saying all that matters to exotic car buyers is that a Ferrari looks nice, and not that it's actually fun to drive.
    No, that's like saying that all that matters to a common person who accidentally runs into a Ferrari is that it looks nice. And, most of the time, that's the case. The exotic car buyer is a specialist -- the equivalent of a designer in our case. We're tallking more about the masses than the specialists.

    Quote Originally Posted by transio
    Of course it's true. Great design in any medium can be appreciated by designers, but the general masses are drawn to the latest, most spectacular forms of entertainment. This can be observed in many industries.
    (Sorry to pull this one out of order.)

    Great design in any medium can be appreciated by anyone. The designer may appreciate, for example, the difficulty of achieving said design, but what really matters to the layperson is the result.

    As for the latest, most spectacular forms of entertainment, TV drama still seems to be going strong, as does soccer, but they're forms of entertainment that are old compared to, say, reality television. The latest, most spectacular form of entertainment has an advantage in that it gets an initial `oh! That's nice!', but in the long run the advantage is equalized by the maturity of a technology.

    Moreover, Flash isn't *exactly* a brand new technology here... It's been around what, 8-10 years now? Especially considering the pace of technology in the computing world, that's definitely not new.


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