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    Tim Berners-Lee on Web 2.0: "nobody even knows what it means"

    The short story is web 2.0 advocates explain it as web 1.0 was about connecting computers, web 2.0 is about connecting people. And Berners-Lee insists web 1.0 was also about connecting people, and web 2.0 doesn't really mean anything.

    Truth be told, there are certain ideas which have a great potential to be misunderstood or misapplied. And Web 2.0 is one such idea.

    The top 10 things that aren’t Web 2.0

    There’s a lot of smart people asking ‘What is Web 2.0?’.
    I’ll tell you what it isn’t.
    1. Ajax, RSS, etc
    2. Feature lists
    3. VC funding
    4. Hiring, hiring, and more hiring
    5. “Stealth mode”
    6. Public betas
    7. “Proprietary” formats
    8. “Revolutionary” anything
    9. Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft
    10. Boards of directors
    11. Selfishness

    -- 37Signals
    For programmers, Web 2.0 is code - specifically mashups. Any graphic artist can tell that Web 2.0 look, and quite a few people mistake the gradients for the term. It certainly seems wherever your personal comfort zone is, there is Web 2.0

    What haven't we covered? The "people" being connected. If Web 2.0 is about people, try talking to and about people. User tests and interaction design as integral to web design. Writing (text) becomes just as important as writing code to web designers.

    Exactly what is happening too little during the Web 2.0 era.


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    Errr .... that link at the top of you post links to "Create new thread" for the forum :ermm:
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    It was a podcast for IBM, some links here,

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    The link now goes to Text coverage of the podcast ...if you don't want to wade through the zillionth podcast.

    In fact, Sir Tim has some really big doubts that Web 2.0 is different from Web 1.0 at all.

    When asked if it's fair to say that the difference between the two might be fairly described as "Web 1.0 is about connecting computers, while Web 2.0 is about connecting people," Berners-Lee replied, "Totally not. Web 1.0 was all about connecting people. It was an interactive space, and I think Web 2.0 is of course a piece of jargon, nobody even knows what it means. If Web 2.0 for you is blogs and wikis, then that is people to people. But that was what the Web was supposed to be all along. And in fact, you know, this 'Web 2.0,' it means using the standards which have been produced by all these people working on Web 1.0."
    -- Tim Berners-Lee on Web 2.0: "nobody even knows what it means"
    For more you can also read Jeffrey Zeldman's Web 2.0 Thinking game. "Clearly “Web 2.0? means different things to different journalists on different days. Mostly it means nothing—except a bigger paycheck."

    AJAX! Web 2.0 It's so "New"! "But with every “new” thing coming into the forefront of development for the web it’s most important to know when not to use it rather than to just use it at will because its just so new and neato!" .... "Supposedly from the mentions of Jeff Bates and Patrick Norton, the idea behind Web 2.0 is that people have “now” have realized we need some kind of new user interaction and new user involvement, new, new, new!"

    Strangely enough for all the "people talk" in the Web 2.0 slogan, you don't see a lot of discussion of specific user types, specific user tasks or goals. For example, if you took the connecting people literally, you might expect more coders connecting to human factors or graphic artists shifting more towards a business focus. Essentially connecting accross former (Web 1.0) cultural barriers.

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