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    One of my clients has asked me to produce a version of their website specifically for viewing on mobile/handheld devices.

    This is an area that I have no experience of.

    Brief research highlights a real minefield of issues.
    • should it be a separate site
    • should I detect the type of device and redirect accordingly
    • should I use some form of css for handheld
    • how do I design for different devices iPhone, Blackberry etc
    Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

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    I hate to just give an answer like this, but this is the most valuable resource (Google):

    http://www.google.com/search?q=websi...ne&btnG=Search

    And this:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...f&oq=&aqi=g-m2

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

    There are too many variations, and the iphone apps are a totally different thing.
    In the U.S. ... the whole cell phone, smart phone, pda, etc. is a total mess.


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    Thanks mlseim

    There is some useful information but..

    It is interesting that all the search results have some very old 2001,2004 entries on the first page. This makes me think that there is probably too much uncertainty as to what is the best method. So people are just not presenting a consistent method.

    I use an iPhone and it is a real pain that you can't read flash on websites. I think it is the same for the Blackberry but possibly about to change.

    Android based phones can or will be able to read flash (Google does it again)

    So I think I will probably make a minimalist web page for mobiles. This assumes I can find a way to detect who/what is viewing the site.

    Rich

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    As I said, right now in the U.S., there's a problem with what direction it's going.

    A good example of small screen rendering is Flickr mobile.
    They made a site specifically for small screens. You might want to copy their CSS.
    http://m.flickr.com/

    If you view it on a PC, it looks sort of funny. But if you view it on a cell phone, it works.

    But it's not an "app" ... so for an iphone, it's just another website.
    iphone apps are programmed in a special language, called Objective-C.
    I believe this is a version of C++?

    Good luck with your adventure.


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    Thanks mlseim for the reply.

    I also found this article which was useful on www.alistapart.com/

    Rich

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    most of the material is old because the new phones negate the need for special designing. the iphone and android render css just fine. tested my site on both.

    while($get_it !== true){ continue; }

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    Thanks Dorky

    So do you think it is best just to keep the same site and not offer any different content for mobile users?

    I find that with my iPhone I am always having to zoom in and out to navigate and read the content. And of course if there is flash on the site I just get a gray box!

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    no i was just explaining the reason for the old articles. i highly suggest taking the chance to make more money for sure. pure html is the only real way to do this because you will never find a reliable detection format, not one you can 100% guaranty to your client anyway

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    just try for moz and ie browser detect and if its not either, offer up the html format

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    Some are suggesting detect available screen size and render content accordingly.

    I think this needs some experimentation - but it's time /cost that really matters to me on this.

    Any thoughts on how best to test other than to open recruit different mobile users to give their honest opinion?


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