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    Senior Member peezybro's Avatar
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    ok. Sorry if this is the wrong place for me to post. If it is, May you please move it to the right thread?

    Anyway, Im new to making websites. I know HTML, learned CSS, and going to be learning Java very soon. I'mlooking to do this as a side job in the future.I was hoping i can partner up with someone and work with them and help me become a better coder. The main thing i have a problem with is the Designing the layout. I don't have the creative mind set to create one. Witch is why i would like to have a partner that can design and still teach me cool tips on how to code them etc.

    Not sure if I'm going to get positive feedback on this post, but hopefully someone can take me under there wing and help a guy out.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

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    I don't know about an actual partnership but you get get loads of help here in these forums
    I'll start you off with some advice:
    • unless you're using it elsewhere, don't learn java. Learn something like javascript, jquery, PHP, MySQL etc. Those are way more beneficial in the web design world
    • i always have had a problem coming up with original designs. what i do now is look at some site on the web for inspiration, and take it on a tangent from them. These are pretty bad ***, check em out.
    • w3schools.com is a great place for beginners, they have tutorials on all the languages you'll need.
    • come here for advice any time you like, we've got a lot of experienced people on WDF
    • for now, you can start by creating a dummy site, and we'll walk you through it

    Cheers.
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    Goerge - you are becoming a pretty good mentor! Keep up the good work.
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    I'd do exactly as George said above, and the dummy site is a great idea.

    There is a lot to design, and it is something which moves with trends and is constantly changing! Personally I read a lot of blogs such as Inspiredology, who have some great stuff posted with the latest design trends for not just web. If you want, just subscribe to their Friday Fix Newsletter and it might help you out.

    There are some great posts out there on the net which will help you. One really good post is this Design trends for 2011.

    As for partnering up, it isn't necessary if you are part of a community like this then everyone will help you out and tell you where you're going wrong. But really you have to understand what people like in design, look at websites and think what you like about them; then work out how it is done and why it works. Understand usability and see if the average web user can understand and navigate!
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    I started in the same place. Not a creative bone in my body. The more I worked on it, and allowed the people around here to shred my designs, the better I got. It also helped to study design process and color theory. The designs don't come together as easily as for some, but they do come together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMare, post: 217823
    Goerge - you are becoming a pretty good mentor! Keep up the good work.
    Thanks!
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    Thanks for the help again guys. When i said java i did meant JavaScript (:

    As for the dummy website, How should i go about making it? Should i try and create my own layout? or maybe should i follow a Photoshop guide for making the layout?

    Is there a good place to learn Photoshop or maybe even adobe firework? The one thing i don't get a lot with making a layout is size of the canvas, what should i slice, what to save it as, etc.
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    For a first design I'd go for a 960px wide content area, so just do a monitor width canvas size with something like 1280px. You could try making yourself a portfolio design, or a blog design something like that.

    Just a google search has taken me to 27 Best Photoshop Web Layout Design Tutorials. Maybe go for a design you like the end result for and try to recreate it with some differences? I wouldn't go for anything too complicated looking though. Modern trends show simpler is better anyway

    I'd follow up designing it in Photoshop to creating the HTML and CSS for it as well. Perhaps do two Photoshop designs, one with following a tutorial, and one making your own design. Or just follow a tutorial and change bits along the way.
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    ok cool, Is photoshop just the best program to use?
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    Well, everyone I know in industry uses Photoshop so I'd certainly go with that.
    Mark Gannaway Software Developer

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