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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGAME1264 View Post
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not buying any of your claims. I don't believe you're making "$5,000 for informational and e-commerce websites on WordPress", and if you are, you're in way over your head with the latter.

    Building an e-commerce site in WordPress is a lot like saying, "okay, I want to build an office condo unit and I've got this 100-piece tool set my mom bought me from Sears for Christmas and not much else." There are tons of things you need to take into account when building an e-commerce site and doing it properly. Here are just ten of those things, and I guarantee you that there are at least 2 on this list you either haven't considered or haven't even heard of before:

    PCI compliance
    SSL
    Server administration and updates
    Encryption of sensitive information and storage into a database
    Whether or not auto-rebilling is an option
    SEO
    SEM
    Privacy policies
    Refund policies
    Payment processing APIs
    Shipping APIs as applicable

    Again, that's what popped into my mind as a short list of things that I have to keep in mind when I build e-commerce sites. If you just started "this summer", there is no way you know about all of these things. There just isn't. Ever had a PCI compliance scan done on any of your sites before? Go ahead and arrange for one with the payment processor for one of your sites if you haven't. Don't rely on your host to be PCI compliant either...most aren't. Even some of the ones that claim they are really aren't. Get the report back with all of the errors on it and then try to solve those. Then let's see how serious you are about web design and development as a career...based on your responses, if you even bother to do this, you'll run with your tail tucked between your legs so fast it'll make the rest of our heads spin.

    A web design forum is a place to receive help and to give help...on matters related to web design and development. If you're struggling with a code issue, or you're not sure what color to use for something, or you want feedback for something you've built, that's what it's there for. There is no forum on the planet that I'm aware of that exists to teach people how to run their businesses, nor should there be...that's something people have to learn on their own.

    You also have to understand that on any forum, web design or otherwise, you're not entitled to anything. Just because you ask a question doesn't mean someone has to or should give you an answer. They're a resource you go to when you have a question, but they shouldn't be the only resource. Like WZ said, some of the stuff you asked can only be answered by a professional lawyer...no one else. That's the beginning, the middle, and the end. If you're serious, talk to and pay for a lawyer...if you're making $5,000 a month (and again, I doubt that), you can and should afford one.

    You've been given the best advice you could have possibly been given based on your question. You found a few people willing to pay you some money, but working as a freelance web designer isn't a get-rich-quick industry, and it's a lot harder than the low barrier to entry makes it appear. If you're serious, then you'll study all sorts of different things and at least learn them, if not master them. If not...maybe you should look at being a dirt bike repairman. No sarcasm intended here whatsoever.
    I am here to learn, not to bicker. If you are an "expert" then you should know making 5k in a month is absolutely reasonable. If you must know the actual stats are $4700 in 5 weeks with 2 sites. My e-commerce site was built for a doctor to sell her private line of products. I added all products myself and also came up with all content for the fourteen services she offers as well as creating and integrating social media accounts and a personal blog. The other site was built for an accountant who wanted a basic informational site with a blog and multiple pages for things like financial planning, taxes, etc..

    You are right there are things on your list I didn't know of but the money is still in my account at the end of the day. I used Woocommerce and integrated Paypal so I didnt buy an SSL or implement an API.

    I came here for help and to ask the wise elders of the web design world a few basic questions on starting out. In regards to my user name it is based off of my journey of making money online through web design and internet marketing. I am making money through various means such as ebay, affiliate marketing, PPC, adsense, ebooks etc.. I am not looking to "get rich quick" I am looking to work my *** off for years to be able to have multiple forms of income all relating to the online world.

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    There are some good WordPress Premium themes out there, and I know people looking to use them (not as blogs). In the event people come across this thread, can you post a link to your website? It might be helpful to someone. You have my permission (as a staff member) to post your link, or mention your website domain name "in conversation" if you would rather do that. Customizing premium wordpress themes seems to be a hot topic these days.


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    Anyone looking for wordpress themes can go here: themeforest.net and here http://www.woothemes.com/product-category/themes/

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    Any WP theme requires customization, codex, child themes, etc. That is the type of thing that interests people on this forum. A lot of people have problems with integrating ecommerce w/ wordpress. I'm just thinking that you might have some good experience with that.


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    I have five weeks of web design experience. The simple solution to integrating a shop or store into any wordpress theme is Woocommerce.

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    ...and the simple solution for a little boy who has never ridden a bike before is a Big Wheel. The problem is that as the little boy grows, he'll want a real bicycle.

    This has become rather bizarre to me...you have 5 weeks' worth of experience by your own admission and you're building e-commerce sites?!?!?!?!?!? Well, not really...you're using WordPress, WooCommerce and PayPal (and by "PayPal", I'm assuming you don't mean their Website Payments Pro option since that requires an SSL). I can't believe you were upfront about your (lack of) experience with the doctor and accountant and you probably dazzled them with style and no substance, although I can believe an accountant would fall for a slick corporate-sounding pitch full of generalities...some of the accountants I've seen are horrible businessmen and are highly suggestible when it comes to buzzwords and phrases. You are in way over your head, though. You shouldn't even attempt to build an e-commerce site until you've been developing sites for at least a year, and in all likelihood I'd say 2-3. Notice how I didn't say designing; there's a very, very big difference. An e-commerce site isn't some slap-a-template-and-customize-it-using-a-script thing...it's an extension of a business, and in many cases it is a business. You need to treat your clients' sites as such, and doing what you're doing means you don't.

    Let me bottom line this for you...you're going to do eBay, you're going to do affiliate marketing, you're going to do Adsense, you're going to resell rare African monkey testicles to rich entrepreneurs, you're going to sail the ocean blue and make millions working 169 hours a week. The problem that I have with what you just said is that it's obviously BS, but if anyone calls you on it you'll either come up with even bigger BS to counter it or cop out by saying "prove it" or "you don't know what you're saying" or things of that nature because you're way too awesome and no one should ever dare question your awesomeness. That's Warrior Forum Kool-Aid cult thinking, and it doesn't fly in the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadtoRiches View Post
    I have five weeks of web design experience. The simple solution to integrating a shop or store into any wordpress theme is Woocommerce.
    Tweaking WP and installing plugins is NOT web design experience, surprised you haven't claimed to be an SEO expert, oh wait, have you installed that plugin yet ?

    thanks for the laugh
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    ALL IN ONE SEO PACK = SEO GURUNESS!

    Dude, I just cracked up laughing at that.
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    a reference to the infamous Viagra Website would fit here

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    I have never installed a wp site for a client without needing to do customization, codex, and sometimes child themes. How is it possible to find a wootheme that works without changes? I thought for sure roadtoriches is good at doing that since he/she is doing wp sites for clients.



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