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    Question: web design contests

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    I've just started a WD business, but I've been having a bit of trouble finding clients, and staying busy. I'm wondering if web design contests are an alternative to finding clients. I'm not really concerned about money at the moment, I just want to work on a project. I'm pretty competent in both photoshop and dreamweaver, so I think I can come up with good designs. Any advice?

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    Won't do a thing for you, kid. Here's why.

    You're a designer. Most of the people who post here are designers. Most of the people looking for jobs online are designers. That creepy guy you see in a Starbucks wearing a comic book T-shirt while he sips a $5.00 coffee and taps away on his Macbook Air as if he's actually doing something is a designer. If you tell someone you're a designer, chances are that person will say something like, "oh, you must know my friend Bob, he designs websites too, he's really good!"

    In other words, designers are a dime a dozen. What is rare and very valuable, however, is a developer...someone that can look at a real-world problem and solve it. However, that takes more than Photoshop and Dr*amw*av*r. It takes a server-side language and the ability to apply knowledge; most of the world lacks the later, and much of the world lacks the former. Combine both, and you're sailin'.
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    Man, that sucks. All I can do is design. I mean, development bores me. All that programming... that's boring stuff. How do you start out being a developer? I don't any programming languages.
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    If you think it's boring, then you'll probably not get very far with it ( maybe the basics )

    your only real option is to find developer that doesn't like design or graphics work.

    or find a "design shop" to work for, so you go in, take someone else wire-frame and design sites

    Web Design is a "very broad term", and many never get that... they think pretty web pages is all that is needed to make living in this industry. " design" is just a small part of it.

    Funny Thing, I make 10 times the money building web applications that are truly "ugly" ( if you're looking at things from a visual appeal aspect ), but these ugly applications pull data and create reports from a massive DB, and the client couldn't care less about the "looks", their only requirement is to be able to see the data on the screen and print the report in the correct format.

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    I agree about web development in regards to seeking data (information) from the internet. Most of my clients are the same way ... they need to add, edit, delete, and do reports from online databases ... from anywhere in the world. Web pages as in "welcome to my site", are a thing of the past. It's all about the exchange and manipulation of information. Look at FaceBook. It would even be better if it were more plain. Look at Craig's List ... total success even though it's plain and simple.

    You should match your design skills with a person that does apps (online and native, both). Getting information and moving it around is where its at.


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    So how many clients do you guys thing need a static web sites these days? 20%? 10%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlseim View Post
    Look at FaceBook. It would even be better if it were more plain.
    I agree. It couldn't suck any more than it already does!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Yurlov View Post
    So how many clients do you guys thing need a static web sites these days? 20%? 10%?
    0%. If you can't build a unique feature into your site, you may as well not bother. Just talking about how great thou art is meaningless.
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    I haven't done a "static site" in over 10 years, even clients that want a "turn key" site get some sort of server side scripting for management of the site.

    i don't think its even been an "option" for any clients as I won't suggest it, and they wouldn't know to ask for it.

    But I also don't even try to compete in markets or for clients that may ask for a static site looking to save $$$, the last few potential clients that I contacted and they started forcing the issue of price "over the phone", never became clients, because I chose not to take them on as clients. I'd tell them, I don't think we would make a good fit as client / supplier. One really obnoxious guy demanded to know why I wouldn't work with him, I politely told him... " I suspect you have a list of items you're looking for in a web site, on the top of that list is "cheap", and its not that I'm super expensive, but I don't do cheap either... To you, its all about getting it done, to me its about getting it done ccorrectly.

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    Wow, it never occurred to me until WZ said that...but the last time I did a static site was in 1999. Mind...blown. Ka-BOOOOOOOOOOOM!

    Seriously, I'm in the same boat. If whoever is asking me to build something doesn't have a site idea that I can integrate a USP into (or that already has one figured out for me, which is way better), I don't even give that person a price. I just say I'm busy with other things right now and can't take his/her project on and walk away. No one ever questions "too busy".
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