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    Responsive design and W3C validator

    Hello,

    How can I check that the responsive web design that a designer made for me is good, valid and respect the rules established by the W3C? Do I have to use the W3C mobile validator or another one?

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    David

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    It honestly surprises me that the W3C validators are still online. Don't bother with them. The code I write is perfectly valid every time, and yet I know if I tested any of the sites I've built in the last few years, they'd fail miserably. Why? The short answer is that the validators don't keep up with the real world. Vendor prefixes, tricks of the trade, unofficial "best practices" - none if it is in the standard, and so doesn't validate. That doesn't make it invalid or even incorrect.

    There's a couple of ways to go about this. You can inspect the code yourself, or gather a 3rd party opinion. I'm sure you could find someone around here to provide the information you're looking for at a reasonable price.
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    What Ronald says. A lot of "invalid" code is considered acceptable, and over the years there have been all sorts of cases where perfectly legitimate, functional code was considered "invalid" by one validator or another. My personal favorite is the iframe and XHTML 1.0 Strict. There aren't a lot of good reasons to use iframes, but there are a few (e.g. linking to a manufacturer's PDF or some other download from within your own site). That wasn't good enough for XHTML 1.0 Strict inspectors, however, so they cracked the whip on that one and made it invalid.

    You should be looking at things like "is it actually responsive?" "Does it look at least reasonable on the browsers that I'm targeting?" "Are there any obvious code issues?" If there are issues, then worry about the code.

    Another thing to consider is why universal standards in general are in place to begin with. Universal standards are in place to try and bring people's work to what is considered by another person to be an acceptable level. However, if you hold yourself (or in this case, if the designer holds him/herself) to a higher standard than those imposed by the standards body, then the standards body is pretty much useless. Good designers and good developers realize why consortiums like the W3C need to exist, but have long since taken things beyond any standard the W3C could impose upon them and at best may use w3schools.com for a refresher on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_ View Post
    Hello,

    How can I check that the responsive web design that a designer made for me is good, valid and respect the rules established by the W3C? Do I have to use the W3C mobile validator or another one?

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    David
    I agree with what was said above. To your question if you want to validate the code use these validators by just entering each web page
    The W3C CSS Validation Service
    The W3C Markup Validation Service

    To check how responsive the site is try ScreenFly. Just enter the web page and click on the various devices
    Screenfly / Test Your Website at Different Screen Resolutions


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