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    Not too many. I had a guesthouse and art gallery in the country side should I say, but I lost everything. Then I worked at my brothers who had a 9 bedroom guesthouse, but then, the coronovirus came along and he lost his contracts etc, so he went bankrupt and had to sell. I was just cooking there and doing clerical work, like sending invoices to clients, and keeping records of his expenses etc.
    Before all that, many years back, I was in the UK, and worked in quality control in a factory for 6 years.
    And before that, I was a supervisor in the food department for a Private Clinic.
    My quaifications are N3 computer practice, N3 Food Service Supervision, OCR Bookeeping 1, which I obtained in the UK, when I was there.
    I also have just a certificate in Estate Agency, but I was not a very good Estate Agent. Was not able to close a sale as to speak. But, being an Estate Agent was different here, than being in the UK, as here, you had to drive around all day mainly, knocking on doors and canvassing for clients. And you only got paid commission, if you sold a house. So, you used a huge amount of petrol.
    Ok, I have done other things, when I was very young, like answered telephone calls, and nagging the claims account department to pay out claims for clients who took out insurance, and wanted a claim paid out, when for example, something was stolen from them. But, that work was just working for my father at the time, who had an insurance brokerage business.
    That is about it.
    Ye, I am not young anymore unfortunately so its difficult to start over. I am 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlseim View Post

    If I were to go into the business of webpage design I would think more about specializing in one aspect and joining an existing web design company. Freelancing is tough ... too many freelancers and middle eastern coders that will build websites for pennies. No way to compete other than offer better service and speak English as a native language

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    Very much agree with this, but I have a few things ( opinions to put out there. )
    - Most companies who buy templated WordPress themes from a "non developer/designer" are as you've put it are going to get a bloated piece of rubbish. It won't convert, it has no UX design built into it etc etc

    So there are, aside from specialist development work, also UX Designers... tailoring a website for a target market in terms of looks and functionality is still alive and well and those who study this know there's a gap for this thing.

    It becomes even more apparent when you get out into the real world and deal with WordPress Wix Weebly Squarespace sites that don't perform for very obvious reasons that many companies underestimate the value of UX designers, web developers, graphic designers, online marketing specialists because these tools have made them feel safe in those areas. Templates in an age of personalization is not a good thing.

    Maybe small businesses won't need all this, just yet, but medium and bigger companies sure do especially considering how competitive things get as each year passes.

    Freelancing is tough because of what was mentioned above, also because most startup businesses dont yet understand the potential a website has when its done right, they'd rather save a buck. If you could convince them and follow through on delivering something that converts better and is a great ROI you have something a lot of people don't.

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    So a problem I see here is you're 50 and have a lot of life experiences but not so much in the world of web design. There is web design, which is more related to how a website looks and layouts of pages, and web development, which is how the website operates in regards to content management, PHP scripting, SQL databases and server-side operations. It's really hard to be proficient at all those things. That's why people specialize in one area and join together with other people to form website development businesses.

    You might consider not beating yourself up too much by trying to become a web designer. How many people from very poor to wealthy have smartphones? You mention Internet cafes .... Are there a lot of them and are they becoming more needed as the government takes away more homes? Maybe you can find a job managing or creating your own Internet cafe or a place for people to get online. Or create an online community of people who are losing their homes.

    Find some way to get people to pay you even a small amount for goods or services that help them through the process of losing their homes. I don't know what that might be but you have life experiences that may give you ideas that make you some money. Find out what people need and offer them some solutions.
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    Thanks. Will think about that. I managed to get that clock working in wordpress eventually, but with an html widget, by putting a script tag with the javascript code underneath the html. I kept being told, that I cant put the script with the html, so I was on the wrong path all the time.
    It will help for small pieces of code, but I still can't get it to work, if I put it in an external file, and enqueue it in functions.php. for some reason.
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    A "widget" is different than a "post", so what you did sounds correct.

    I guess WP processes the widgets as HTML/js, whereas posts are not encoded that way.

    In spite of all that, WP is not the best platform for many websites. It was originally intended for Blogs, but those became passe over time so programmers started making WP for other uses and a gazillion plug-ins started showing up, some good, some bad.

    Make a good attempt at a site for some person or business or yourself and let us know how it goes.
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    Yes, I am thinking what type of site I should start building just to gain more knowledge with javascript, and starting to get into php.
    I actually was thinking of trying to build a similar site like fiverr, and see what I learn from that project.
    I am not sure if there would be any money to be made, building a site for hostel businesses to advertise on, and they said they are taking all the properties without compensation, and giving them to the other race, so I think hotels and hostels will also be taken away, but I will think about it.
    I have 2 people now who want a site. Ok, I am charging just enough to buy a pizza, but I am a beginner still, so I can't charge much yet.
    Would I be able to use javascript in API's, Is an API, like pay pal, And a secure way to transfer and secure data. Do you think robots will need javascript and php in certain aspects, in the very near future.
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    If you don't use PHP .... with paypal you can create "pay now" buttons but the users will be directed to paypal for the entire transaction ... afterwards, returned back to your site.

    In order to do anything on your site that involves "security", like logging in, special admin access, or any database action, you'll need PHP/SQL, which is server-side scripting. Javascripting is client-side (the users device).

    I have so much anxiety about your "government taking property", even though I live in the U.S. It seems so destructive to a society. I understand the past history part of it though ... much like the original Native Americans that lived on this continent. But the people living in the U.S. today are a result of the past generations, not the originators. Don't punish me for what my great great grandparents did.

    Anyhow, back to scripting ...

    API's are primarily PHP or any other server-side scripting language (Perl is another example, but not used as much anymore).

    Are you able to subscribe to a shared webhost where you'll be building the websites?
    Or do your two people already have a website with domain name?

    Can you elaborate on what those two site might entail ... give as much info as you are allowed or make-up a hypothetical example.


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    I might use namecheap or hostgator shared hosting package. I wrote to the potential client, telling him that its cheaper if he takes out like a 36 month term - for example with hostgator. I told him, that he would have to pay the full amount upfront. example 36 x $3.00 = full amount to pay. And that it can be tripple that amoount, if he pays on a monthly basis instead. etc. I told him, he can look and compare prices and choose a hosting service of his choice if he wants.
    And that, I can pay for the hosting, domain, and set it up etc, but then I will need his credit card details to do that,
    The one client has a leather repair and service business. I think he also sells some leather items, and repairs shoes.
    I told him, that I will need everything he wants on the site, like photos of his products. prices etc, and info of what he offers etc, and any information that would help him sell himself and more etc.
    I explained what a domain name is etc.
    The other guy is just my friend. He wants me to do the website for free, but will pay me commission from any sales he gets from the website. So, I will have to work hard on the SEO aspect of things there. He also makes and sells leather products.
    I am just worried about the legal aspects, example: if the client later says, that he is not selling anything from his website, and then tries to sue me etc. I am not sure, how much work I must put in on the SEO side of things, As, that is an ongoing thing, and could take up all my time, especially if he expects all that for the price of just doing the website.


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