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  1. #1
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    Good morning. My website looks messed up in Opera and God only knows what other browsers. It looks okay in Fire Fox and Internet Explorer.

    Here is my website. http://unitednothing.net/

    I been on so many messageboards looking for help and nobody can give me any help. People tell me to just put:
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    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd
    ^but that makes things worse.

    or they say just go to htmldog.com

    I don't know alot about HTML. I made a picture of a website, and sliced it in PhotoShop CS. PhotoShopCS gave me a images folder and index.html file. The only thing I added was link tags , .wmv video tag(code), MAcromedia flash tag(code) and a scrollbar and some text about funny news.

    Im almost certain there is something wrong with the html around the scroll bar part. It gets funny looking in the Opera browser for some reason. If any body can help me I would be thankful.

    Please keep in mind I dont know alot of stuff in html.

    So can anybody help me ?

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    You should have a doctype statement at the start of your page. Though not the xhtml one you posted here. Look at http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ to pick out the correct doctype. Probably
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    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
    would be the right one for your page.

    This is going to mess things up a bit. Let me explain. The browser have two or more display modes. These are know as Standard mode and Quirks mode. The use standard mode when the html is good and layed out properly. They use quirks mode when the html is poor or contains errors. Each mode has different layout styles. So if your page is triggering quirks mode in some browsers but not in theres, then it can mess up.

    Since you have no doctype, you can gaurantee that most browsers will display in quirks mode. So thats the mode you have designed for. However, when you add the doctype, the browser might revert to standard mode and so the layout behaves differently.

    Once you have the doctype in, use the http://validator.w3.org/ to check your html for any errors and try to sort them out. If you get stuck, post the error here and someone will explain it too you.

    The bit that's messing opera up is here:

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    <font [arial]> <body link="010101" alink="010101" vlink="010101">
    <div 
    style=' 
    color: #000000; 
    background-color: #EFEFEF; 
    border: solid 0px black; 
    width: 550px; 
    height: 218;
    overflow-x: hidden;
    	overflow-y: auto;
    overflow:-moz-scrollbars-vertical;
    '><
    First of the <font [arial]> isn't valid. It shouldn't have [] square brackets and anyway the <font> tag wad depracated a long time ago. You should use CSS to make your fonts and colours e.g. <span style="font-face:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">some text</span> And there are other ways of using css without having to use span tags everwhere.

    Next we have <body link="010101" alink="010101" vlink="010101">, clearly this tags in the wrong place. The is aready a body tag at the start of the page so get rid of that one at the same time as the fond.

    Now look at the scroll bars. You've used css to do this, but the definition you used is overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: auto; overflow:-moz-scrollbars-vertical; It's likely that opera isn't likeing this. Just use this instead. overflow:auto; there is no need to turn off the x axis. It will only apear if it's needed and on your page it's not needed so it won't apear.

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    '><p><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="+1"><b>What's Really in Your Halloween Candy?<br><font size="1">Salem, MA  |  The annual Trick or Treat tradition has been dampened by tales of twisted psychopaths doling out poisoned candy and razor-blade-filled apples to unsuspecting cherubs.</font></font></p></b>
    
    But is there any rational basis for these warnings, or is it just a combination of urban legend and heightened national paranoia? Let's examine the facts:</br></br>
    <b>Who can you trust?</b></br><br>
    No one. It was never a good idea to leave the well-being of your children to the mercy of strangers. But the dangers have increased exponentially since Nine-Eleven. That innocent-looking apartment or trailer home may very well contain a nest of sleeper-cell terrorists.<br><br>
    <b>Should you examine all treats under X-ray?</b></br><br> Definitely. Many communities offer a free CAT scan of your kiddie's Halloween stash. A dangerous syringe can be concealed easily in a Twinkie, Butterfinger, Chick-O-Stick or Jolly Rancher. It is an unfortunate fact that most candies are produced in third-world countries with little or no sanitation enforcement. Many confectioners are located near medical waste dumps..</br><br>If possible, irradiate all fruit, cheese and baked goods - cookies, cupcakes, pies, etc. Another option is to microwave the goodies. Twelve to fifteen minutes on the highest setting should do the trick. Deep-frying will also render most contaminates inert.
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    <b>Chocolates and Mints:</b></br><br>
    One word: Ex-Lax. The odds are one-in-four that a "fun size" candy bar has been replaced with a powerful cathartic. It's almost impossible for the untrained eye to distinguish between a Milk Dud and a suppository.<br></br>
    
    It's common knowledge that green M&amp;Ms are an aphrodisiac. Be sure to locate these and remove them from the package as soon as your child comes home. If you decide to store them, keep them safely hidden from curious teenagers.
    
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    <b>Hard Candies:</b></br><br>
    
    Jawbreakers have a 36% likelihood to explode. (Why do you think they're called "jaw breakers"?) The long-lasting pleasure of enjoying this treat isn't worth the risk of permanent facial disfigurement.</br></br>
    
    Never eat a lollipop while driving. Hundreds of people are killed or injured each year when their car's airbag deploys, forcing the deadly projectile down their windpipe.</br></br>
    
    Life Savers? The name alone should send a chill down the spine of any vigilant parent.<br><br>
    
    <b>Bubble Gum:</b></br></br>
    Not only does chewing gum promote tooth decay, it takes seven years to pass through the digestive system if swallowed. So your child will be in college before recovering from its effects. Also keep in mind, terrorist Osama bin Laden owns a monopoly of the gum arabic supply. When you chew gum, you chew with Osama.
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    <b>Misc Caveats:</b></br>
    
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    <li> Little "Mikey" of Life Cereal fame died after mixing Pop Rocks with soda pop.
        <li> Some food colorants are made of ground-up insects and/or tropical bird droppings.
        <li> Is that really sugar in those Pixie Stix, or weaponized anthrax?
        <li> So-called "licorice rope" poses a hanging hazard for toddlers. (It also has an unsettling resemblance to the Australia Black Python, the most venomous snake in the world.)</br></ul>
    
    So keeping all these things in mind, enjoy a fun, safe and spoooooky Halloween. It could be your last.
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="75" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="3" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="75" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="3" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="75" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="3" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="75" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
    
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="3" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="75" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="3" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="75" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    			<img src="images1/spacer.gif" width="4" height="1" alt="SHOULD HAVE ALT TEXT" /></td>
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    </table>
    <!-- End ImageReady Slices -->
    </body>
    </html>
    I attempted to clean the code a bit definetly prefer css over tables... try tidy on the code
    tidy.sourceforge.net
    Thee Pyro Wolf

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    as an extension to what i said before i also noticed that things like meta, img and break (br) tags we not closed correctly eg: /> on the end also all attributes should have double or single quotes (' or ") around them
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    meta, img and break (br) tags we not closed correctly eg: /> on the end
    the /> on the end is only required in XHTML. If the page is HTML 4.01 (and it look like that since it's tables with no css and font tags everywhere) then the /> is incorrect.

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    I would suggest always striveing to be xhtml compliant and therefore always post assumeing xhtml compliancy unless otherwise directly stated. although it is true that the /> syntax is incorrect in anything but xhtml i still post useing it because it makes the most sense to have xml conforming code.
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