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  1. #1
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    Hi, I built this website for my school Plattsburg Public School and I realise that I've done the banner wrong but not sure how to fix it. Wc3 doesn't like topmargin, leftmargin etc but I can't get the corners of the banner to align any other way. Now that Explorer 8 is out it looks crappy.

    Here's my code, can anyone help me rewrite it so it passes a validator? I'm thinking I might have to redesign the whole banner.

    <body background="./graphics/bg12.gif" topmargin="15" leftmargin="0" marginheight="15" marginwidth="0">
    <table align="center" width="850" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <td><img src="./graphics/cnrtl.gif" width="10" height="10" alt="graphic" /></td>
    <td><img src="./graphics/topborder.gif" width="850" height="10" alt="graphic" /></td>
    <td><img src="./graphics/cnrtr.gif" width="10" height="10" alt="graphic" /></td>
    <td><img src="./graphics/lsideborder.gif" width="10" height="180" alt="graphic" /></td>
    <td><img src="./graphics/banner.jpg" width="850" height="180" alt="Banner" /></td>
    <td><img src="./graphics/rsideborder.gif" width="10" height="180" alt="graphic" /></td>
    <td><img src="./graphics/cnrl1.gif" width="10" height="25" alt="graphic" /></td>
    <td><script type="text/javascript" src="./menu.js"></script>
    <td><img src="./graphics/cnrr1.gif" width="10" height="25" alt="graphic" /></td>


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    WDF Staff AlphaMare's Avatar
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    I really think you need to consider getting away from tables and into divs, using an external CSS to position your elements.

    I hvae looked a the site in IE7 (looks OK) and in Firefox 3.6.9 (images don't line up). and I have to say you may have to just bite the bullet and redo things.
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    Junior Member zeroality's Avatar
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    I agree, you really need to learn how to structure websites using CSS and all style elements (margin, background, etc) should be done in CSS as well.

    HTML and CSS Tutorials, References, and Articles | HTML Dog can get you started, and they have tutorials in stages so you can start from the beginning or jump ahead.

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    WDF Staff RickM's Avatar
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    I have to agree with AlphaMare and zeroality. Using CSS will make this so much easier. The problem you'll find is that table's just arent flexible. Using div's will allow you much greater control of things.

    It doesnt have to be hard either.

    A simple central alignment of a div is like so: (note: it's best to store the CSS in its own css file but this is for demo purposes)

    	margin: 0px auto;
    <div id="myDiv">This is in the center</div>
    Now, if you want multiple divs on the same line (so it ends up looking like a table row) you'll need to use floats.

    Another way is to use list elements. a <ul> list can be styled to be horizontal, and you could have a list that has 3 elements: 1 for the left border, 1 for content, 1 for the right border.

    Here's a few decent recommended reads regarding using divs and css:

    Getting your DIVs to behave like TABLEs -
    A List Apart: Articles: Practical CSS Layout Tips, Tricks, & Techniques
    Nuno Silva Blog Archive Divs instead of tables

    Hope this helps & good luck with the site!

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