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    can anyone tell me why the div scroller at
    http://gsr.jordanf.com/design/design.php
    looks good in IE but doesn't work in mozilla or opera?

    the code is
    HTML Code:
    #text{
    position:absolute;
    top:170px;
    left:301px;
    width:265px;
    height:279;
    color:white;
    font:10pt serif;
    align:justify;
    
    overflow:auto;
    filter:chroma(color=#000000);
          scrollbar-face-color:#000000;
          scrollbar-shadow-color:#000000;
          scrollbar-highlight-color:#000000;
          scrollbar-3dlight-color:#000000;
          scrollbar-darkshadow-color:#000000;
          scrollbar-track-color:#000000;
          scrollbar-arrow-color:#C2A2DA;
    	  padding:3;
    }
    I understand the chroma filter doesn't work in other browsers, but it should still show up black

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    mozilla and opera don't support scrollbar css

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    In fact, no one supports it except IE on windows.

    I personally don't reccomend it, it takes away from usability something fierce.
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    Filthy IE made code, just to help gain their monopoly. Everyone always says you should be complient to IE, since it has the largest audience, but avoid anything that is ONLY complient to IE.
    Whoth steps forth to mock the teal? Whom couldst say a color superior!

    Proclamith me, it cannot be done.

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    "filthy IE made code"

    So no one else lets you color the scroll bars? Thats kinda silly... Oh well, thanks guys, guess flash it is.

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    Why do you want to color the scroll bars? Honestly, every time someone does that it pisses me off What's so wrong with keeping the user's standard? People get used to how their scrollbars are supposed to look, and they know what they do. When suddenly people change that from two 2px x 2px pictures of "arrows" (one of my pet peeves of flash designers) people get confused and leave without reading the content. I know from personal experience I've watched my stepmom do this to at least 10 different sites, even after I've explained how to use them. She simply doesn't have the time to figure out how to make it work when she can go to a competitors site that she knows how to use, and spend her money there
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    Its not that nobody else does not want to let you color their scroll bars.. In fact in some instances I wish others included this functionality. The reason for the lack of support is because properties to do this do not nore ever will be included in the CSS specification. So any properties that allow you to do this would be browser(IE) specific.

    BTW the reason why the W3C has not put it into any specification is that different browsers use different looking scroll bars, take a look at pretty much any linux or macintosh browser to see what I mean. So then there would have to be a universial standard made for scrollbars on all operating systems befor it would even be considered as part of the CSS specification, and thats never going to happen.


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    "BTW the reason why the W3C has not put it into any specification is that different browsers use different looking scroll bars, take a look at pretty much any linux or macintosh browser to see what I mean. So then there would have to be a universial standard made for scrollbars on all operating systems befor it would even be considered as part of the CSS specification, and thats never going to happen. "

    That makes a lot of sense, thanks.

    And if you look at the site http://gsr.jordanf.com/design/design.php I don't want to change the main scroll bar, just the scroll bar in a div, because it looks really bad with a grey scrollbar there in the middle.

    Btw thats not the site i want to use, so before you all complain that you dont like the scrolling div the site i designed that i wanted to use was gsr.jordanf.com but that was too plain looking for them.

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    Well, that's different. You can use images and javascript to make the scrollbar look like whatever you want with a div.

    Here's something I found real quick on the subject.
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    sweetness. Thanks, sorry i didn't know how to word it quite.


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