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    Clone Someone Else's WordPress Website

    Hi All,

    Would really like some advice.

    Background:

    A new client contacted me because he is unhappy about the service he receives from his current web designer / host.

    His contract stipulates that he OWNS his site.

    His current web designer used a drag and drop website builder and commercial theme.

    My new client feels like getting a total archive (including database, theme, etc.) may be an issue.


    Please Advise Me:
    Should I try to copy his existing site before he notifies them that he is leaving?

    Anyone else have this situation?

    Thanks,

    -Robyn

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    Wordpress is open source. Anyone can get the wordpress "platform" for free.

    The 'proprietary' part is the theme.

    The theme is the directory where the "layout, look, feel, images, etc." are stored.
    The database (the SQL database on the webhost) is where the content is stored.

    Many themes are sold online. People can buy them, install them and customize them.
    A lot of WordPress sites use the same theme, some are modified, and some are custom made from scratch.

    You would need to:
    1) Make a backup copy of the database (the MySQL database) by using the control panel of his webhost.
    2) Copy the theme directory, located in the WordPress content directory.
    3) Copy the plugins directory. Anyone can get the same plugins, but it would be easy to just copy the ones they are currently using.

    That handles the physical wordpress part, but where their website resides and who is hosting it ... that's another issue.

    If your client paid for a shared webhost account (example GoDaddy) and he has all of the webhost account logins, etc. then he owns his own website. You can login to the control panel, create your own FTP account and copy all of the files. Changing all passwords would "lock-out" the current web designer. He should pay the designer all money he owes and respectfully get out of any written agreements.

    If your client hired a web designer and only paid him/her (not a webhost), then your client has a problem. You won't be able to copy the wordpress files unless you have FTP access to the files. The web designer probably won't provide that, since it is the web designer that actually controls the web hosting. If this is the case, your client needs to carefully follow any written, signed agreements with the web designer. You client can respectfully ask the web designer to give him the zipped files as I indicated above. Then, pay any remaining money owed and move on to a new web host (such as GoDaddy). It may go smoothly, or the web designer may balk. If no written agreement was made, it's all up to what the web designer wishes to do.


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    It seems to me that we could answer better if we knew exactly what was used to build the site. You say he used a drag and drop web site builder and a commercial theme. Our suggestions could be different if the site was built using GoDaddy's drag and drop builder, Wix, or WordPress or any of the many things it could be.

    At a minimum the text could be copied into a text file and the photos could be downloaded if they are photos specific to you and your business. Having the wording and photos would save a ton of time if the site needs to be redone from scratch. You do want to look closely at the wording in any written contract.

    If it is a WordPress site, the other issue could be the access you have. If you wanted to move the hosting to one you had complete control over there are plugins that will do that automatically and some hosts such as SiteGround that will move it for you. Once you are in your own hosting you would have total control.

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    Builder Specifics

    Quote Originally Posted by mlseim View Post
    Wordpress is open source. Anyone can get the wordpress "platform" for free.

    The 'proprietary' part is the theme.

    The theme is the directory where the "layout, look, feel, images, etc." are stored.
    The database (the SQL database on the webhost) is where the content is stored.

    Many themes are sold online. People can buy them, install them and customize them.
    A lot of WordPress sites use the same theme, some are modified, and some are custom made from scratch.

    You would need to:
    1) Make a backup copy of the database (the MySQL database) by using the control panel of his webhost.
    2) Copy the theme directory, located in the WordPress content directory.
    3) Copy the plugins directory. Anyone can get the same plugins, but it would be easy to just copy the ones they are currently using.

    That handles the physical wordpress part, but where their website resides and who is hosting it ... that's another issue.

    If your client paid for a shared webhost account (example GoDaddy) and he has all of the webhost account logins, etc. then he owns his own website. You can login to the control panel, create your own FTP account and copy all of the files. Changing all passwords would "lock-out" the current web designer. He should pay the designer all money he owes and respectfully get out of any written agreements.

    If your client hired a web designer and only paid him/her (not a webhost), then your client has a problem. You won't be able to copy the wordpress files unless you have FTP access to the files. The web designer probably won't provide that, since it is the web designer that actually controls the web hosting. If this is the case, your client needs to carefully follow any written, signed agreements with the web designer. You client can respectfully ask the web designer to give him the zipped files as I indicated above. Then, pay any remaining money owed and move on to a new web host (such as GoDaddy). It may go smoothly, or the web designer may balk. If no written agreement was made, it's all up to what the web designer wishes to do.
    He has a contract.

    The site was built with "Pro" website creator. https://theme.co/pro/#new
    and only 3 plugins: gravity forms, a slider and feed the grid (for YouTube, Twitter and Instagram).

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    You mentioned the contract says that he owns the site.
    What about any mention of separation between him and the developer?
    If either one has to leave for any reason (could be death, could be going out of business, could be wanting to move to a different web developer), what happens with the site?

    Looks like the Pro creator builds themes for wordpress.
    So he has a wordpress site?
    Can you give us a link to his site so we can verify that?

    Private message me if you don't wish to make your clients URL public.
    We can tell more about it by looking at the site (HTML source and whois information)
    Last edited by mlseim; Apr 23rd, 2018 at 07:51 AM.



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