Evil Java?

[smoseley]

Whatever do you mean? Java is beautiful !!

[TheGAME1264]

Uhhhh...what?

[smoseley]

Fulburt said:

god willing I use evil Java

in this thread:

http://www.webdesignforums.net/thread5501.html

[filburt1]

I've used JSP and Java for three years and it's ridiculous when you try to do something simple that you need the several dozen MB runtime and 20 lines of code and objects and classes. With PHP you just type one frickin' line of code and it works.

Granted every language has its advantages but personally I just can't stand working with Java anymore.

[smoseley]

I agree that PHP is simple, and definitely has its purpose (web apps).

However, once you get to enterprise-level software, it's a whole new ball game, and Java is the homerun hitter of that game (although .NET is looking pretty damn good).

[ivcho]

Java is god.. period.

The only reason why it would a lose a share in the market from .NET is because it's Microsoft's product.

[smoseley]

Umm...

There are also the facts that:

1. Java executes very poorly in non-native (Unix) environments,
2. Java has a lack-luster thick-client interface,
3. Java has lack of low-level control (assembly-level coding),
4. Java haspoor handling of data-level procedures (stored procedures) because Java is intended to handle all business-layer functionality in its process,
5. Java has decreased database performance on ANY database (because of #4)
6. Java's security settings are too tight (internally),
7. Java doesn't allow multiple inheritance, and
8. Java doesn't make stand-alone executables. It requires a virtual machine to execute.

Those are only a few that I've thought of in the last 2 minutes, but if you insist that there's NOTHING it can't do, I'll try to think of more.

Like I said earlier in this post, every programming language has its purpose. Java is nice, yes. God, no. It has its purpose.

A good programmer knows what the intended functionality of each language is, and uses each appropriately. Ivcho, I imagine, would attempt to program hardware drivers with Java, despite the fact that it's impossible to do so.

That is all.

[smoseley]

BTW, Java is Sun Microsystem's product. The ambiguous statement above suggests that it is a product of Microsoft.

[ivcho]

as you said there's no such thing as the perfect language... so what are you trying to prove to me?

that java isn't god?.. fine.. all i meant by saying that is that It's my favourite language and I think that it stands out on TOP of it's competitors right now.. we'll see when .net setlles in.

and java CAN actually make executables

not trying to argue here..

[smoseley]

Can make executables in a wrapper created by another language (like C++).