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    i've finally finished my very first website!

    www.solverstechline.com

    i'd love to hear all the negative and positive comments. this site was for my uncle's company, and some aspects of the design were mandated by him, such as having the whole bridge/land logo header.

    i wanted to do something very graphical, something that somehow tied in his bridge idea and also conveyed a sense of the machining industry. if he wasn't so determined about the bridge logo image i would've been able to do something a little more standard, less background image-action.

    at least i had fun and learned SO much!

    at first i made the site with dreamweaver and frames, then i taught myself CSS and some basic javascript and redid the entire site, coding everything myself----NO dreamweaver!

    i used coreldraw12 for scalable vector graphic design,
    fireworks to edit, check, and confirm images,
    rapidcss to code everything,
    and dreamweaver to upload to the server.

    notice the CSS rollovers..... =)

    thanks to all who respond.
    -averan

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    Mozilla firefox and Internet explorer take a long time to load the site on a 56k connection.

    You have to move the mouse over the buttons for the text to appear.

    My main problem is that the site takes too long to load and most people would probably click back before it had even loaded up.

    some good design features but the loading time and confusion of the rollovers would make me just click back and there's too much empty space and a very small text frame.
    The fact that you've used a big font size in a small frame makes the matter worse.

    Try using a smaller font.
    If it's possible try not to use frames.
    The butons would look better if the text didn't just show when you moved your mouse over them but all the time!

    Hope the helps!
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    take's a long time to load. The design isn't that great. Work on it more.

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    You didn't say what you didn't like about the design.
    It's more helpful to people if you can give them constructive Criticism rather then "work on it more"
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    I love those cogs and gears.

    It dose take a long time to load, a preloader would help.

    I like the design, but I think the navigation needs to be labled more clearly. You only see 'home' when you hover over the link, for example.

    I also think the main text should be smaller and not quite so bold. Some times you have to scroll left > right whihc is a bad thing.

    I like it, it's quite a refreshing site.

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    Nothing personal when I say, "get rid of the damned iframe."
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    filbert,
    by "iframe" do you mean the div with overflow: scroll? you just don't like the look?---nothing to do with how the look is coded?

    richard s,
    thank you for the feedback. i originally had the text normal weighted and smaller, but got complaints from the owner about readability---i think many non-web people really don't like the small text trend. are you sure that you actually have to scroll to the right to see words?? or is it just that the horiz scroll bar shows up? i thought i made sure that all text was immediately readable with no scrolling wherever possible. i might try to mess around with it a bit again to see if i can figure out a better solution.
    as for the preloader....thought i had it working, guess i need to check the code again, probably didn't update it when i made changes to image files.
    also appreciate your comment on the navigation options not being visible until rollover--that was a design decision of my own, mostly because i thought it looked the best, but i'll reconsider and see if i can find another way that still looks nice too......???

    i realize this design goes against the "norm", that is what made it so fun.

    i'd like to animate some parts, like the gears rotating onclick and the onclick image scrolling out horizontally....maybe fading the pages in and out or with an opening shutter effect?

    thanks to all, "not so great" isn't too bad for a start!

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    Yes, the DIV. I consider it bad design to have scrollable content embedded within other (possible) scrollable content. It also has the famous effect of "trapping" your mouse when you use the mouse wheel to scroll on a page.

    It can be a creative look, but not as accessible and something that a lot of amateur sites do (I realize that you're an amateur, but of course you're willing to learn).

    edit: also get rid of the "mystery meat" navigation. I didn't even know there were links there until I happened to move the mouse over them.

    BTW, don't get me wrong. If it is truly your first site, it's an excellent job.
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    "i realize this design goes against the "norm", that is what made it so fun."
    It might be fun to build but is it "fun" for your visitors or are they confused by the mystery links and the small frame embedded in the page, I know I would be and when I have come across sites like that I click off them straight away.
    I personally don't like or use frames.
    ∑ Itís hard to print a page with frames.
    ∑ Search engines canít index pages with frames.
    ∑ A lot of text in a small frame makes it looked cramped.

    I think sites look better without frames at all!
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    First of all it's not a iframe. It's a DIV with the overflow set to scroll. This means that search engines won't have a problem with it.

    Secondly, I think in this case the is scrolling div is OK. The page as a whole isn't going to scroll so there is no chance of the mouse 'getting traped'.

    Also, dose your host support PHP? If so you can make a simple script to automaticly loop through every file in your 'images' dir and preload them. something like this:

    PHP Code:
    <DIV style="visibility:hidden;">
    <?

    $d 
    $_ENV['DOCUMENT_ROOT']; #find public root
    $d $d."/images"# add your images directory to the public

    $dir opendir($d); #open directory

    while ($f readdir($dir)) 
        { 
    #read one file name
            
            
    echo "<img src=\"images/$f\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" ><br>"#display each file found, but only 1x1 pixel
        
    }

    ?>
    </DIV>


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