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    Hey,

    ive spent the past 4 days(got my wisdom teeth pulled out yesterday) working on creating this forum, 100% from scratch, cause i feel that having a hacking/programming/website forum using a pre-built script is a total load of crap!

    I'm looking for comments about the design, what to add, and if possibly the security(if you don't mind being auto-banned).

    Note, i've made it extremely secure; as far as i can tell, based on my SQLi vulnerability checking programs, it's completely impossible to get in via SQLi, especially with the auto banning features.

    i'm planning on adding some anti-brute forcing features in soon.

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    also if any of you guys ever need any help, i'm always available;

    i can personally help you with HTML, DHTML, XML, FML, CSS, JavaScript, FBJS, PHP, MySQL, Lua Script, VB.Net, C#, and C++ programming
    i've also got a fair amount of knowledge with hacking and security in all of these fields.

    Feel free to sign up and post a message

    thanks for your time everyone!
    i'm looking forward to getting advice on how to improve it.
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    Also if you guys could register and take a look at the thread format as well, than much would be appreciated; as an example thread you can check out: <<Mod note: Removed as it requires registration>> its just a quick post i made about SQL Injections and a bit on how to prevent them.

    I'm afraid im having a bit of trouble with the colours since im living on pain killers right now lol.

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    WOW! Those must be some painkillers!


    i feel that having a hacking/programming/website forum using a pre-built script is a total load of crap!
    You do know that these very forums are run on pre-built script? Way to insult the very people you're asking for help from!

    Personally, I think it's silly to take the time and effort to re-invent the wheel, especially when there are so many really nice ones out there to be had. The attitude that anyone using any form of pre-built script or theme is somehow less worthy than those hand-coding everything from scratch should get you a loyal band of elitist followers who like to look down on others to make themselves feel better.

    And one last note? Maybe you should re-think your colour scheme. My eyes gave up after a couple of minutes. This may work for gaming portals, but for serious people who want information, the colours will be a deterrent, rather than an attraction, in my opinion. If you are seriously trying to attract people who will stay on-site for more than a few minutes, try a different colour arrangement. It is a proven fact that light-on-dark is much more fatiguing to read than dark-on-light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMare View Post
    WOW! Those must be some painkillers!


    You do know that these very forums are run on pre-built script? Way to insult the very people you're asking for help from!

    Personally, I think it's silly to take the time and effort to re-invent the wheel, especially when there are so many really nice ones out there to be had. The attitude that anyone using any form of pre-built script or theme is somehow less worthy than those hand-coding everything from scratch should get you a loyal band of elitist followers who like to look down on others to make themselves feel better.
    Simply put; pre-built scripts only use standard security measures and are loaded full of exploits. When your trying to run a hacking forum, it's best not to use those vulnerable pre-built scripts.

    Plus, because of their CMS like setups, they are extremely inefficient.

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    Are you not using a CMS?
    If not, how do you store and retrieve your data?
    Any database that uses PHP or the like to select and retrieve information is by definition a CMS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMare View Post
    Are you not using a CMS?
    If not, how do you store and retrieve your data?
    Any database that uses PHP or the like to select and retrieve information is by definition a CMS.
    lol,
    A database is not a CMS, and nore is php.
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    now stop trolling, it makes u seem like an idiot.

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    I do not know what you mean by trolling - if I am wrong about the definition of a CMS, please help me out by educating me, not by insulting me and calling me an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMare View Post
    I do not know what you mean by trolling - if I am wrong about the definition of a CMS, please help me out by educating me, not by insulting me and calling me an idiot.
    A CMS is a program that let's a user manage content easily, however its very inefficiently, and relies on SOMEONE ELSES programming abilities.

    PHP is a server side script; it is an interpreture language, just like C#, C++ and so on. The only difference is that PHP is compiled and processed right on the spot, where as with other programming languages they are turned into raw computer code and then ran when needed.

    A Database is a way of STORING data, where as a CMS is a way of managing it. The CMS does not STORE the data, it only manages it.
    So rather than you writting the query and sending to to the database, the CMS will load scripts/programs to query the database/handle the content.

    For example, a CMS like Joomla will load a script for user, then the script will access the database.

    Excell, Word and so on are technically not CMS programs, since they are actually handling the raw data. Word loads the XML formatted file, and shows the data. It also stores it appropriatly. Word and so on, are technically databasing programs. However, unlike SQL they do not use queries since they are setup in a compeltely different way.

    You could also argue that the XML in the word documents are Interpreture languages, which they are.

    HTML is an interpreture language, which you could also argue as being a mark up language, which is pretty much the exact same thing, only being that interpreture languages imply that it's being compiled in some sort of way.

    There is a very thin line between CMS programs and Databases; The main distinguishing way of telling them appart is that the CMS will always call some sort of DataBase, or DataBasing System.

    Most CMS's are programmed to be user and developer friendly, which is EXTREMELY Inefficient, because they are constantly calling variables that would not be needed if it were programmed directly in the script itself.

    Just take a look at the .Net Framework languages, when compared to C++.
    With the framework the program is CALLING functions from a library of functions, where as with C++, the program is compiled into raw machine code that does not necessarily call function inbetween.

    The .Net Framework calls refences for almost everything; only simple mathematics is not used.

    For example, when creating a windows form in let's say C#. The Program calls the .Net framework, and then the framework handles the API calls to windows to tell it to create the form.

    In C++ you program these API calls by hand, and manage them yourself.

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    I was not speaking of a database nor of PHP as independent of each other, but rather as used together:

    database that uses PHP or the like to select and retrieve information
    Is this not the basis of most CMS? Joomla, Drupla, etc?

    I do know that Word and Excel are not CMS's - they are word-processing and spreadsheet applications, respectively.

    I must admit I do not know much about C++ or C#, and thought the .NET framework was an application rather than a language, so thank you for clarifying those for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMare View Post
    I was not speaking of a database nor of PHP as independent of each other, but rather as used together:



    Is this not the basis of most CMS? Joomla, Drupla, etc?

    I do know that Word and Excel are not CMS's - they are word-processing and spreadsheet applications, respectively.

    I must admit I do not know much about C++ or C#, and thought the .NET framework was an application rather than a language, so thank you for clarifying those for me.
    A web based CMS uses PHP to connect to a mysql database.

    PHP is an interpreture language, so it directly connects to the database; if you were to consider PHP as an CMS, than you might as well be calling C++, and C# CMS's as well.

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    OK - you win -
    if you were to consider PHP as an CMS,
    I never said PHP was a CMS - I said it was a part of a CMS.

    But you win - as long as you don't or won't understand what I am saying, there is no point in going further with this.

    Thanks for your time.
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