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    Hello everyone! I have just finished my last and final update for the DropPaint website. Does it look better than the last? What do you like, dislike?

    Thanks!

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    I dislike the tables and inline styles. The overall look isn't bad. The photo of the painter is really low quality and looks completely out of place, as is the Facebook like button. You're using images where you should be just using text and CSS.

    Basically, what I'm saying is that the car has a nice body, but an outdated engine under the hood.
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    If you wanted to completely redesign it why not redesign with div's? Seems like a missed opportunity to me..... I really like the design though. If you convert to div's I think the site will do just fine.
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    TOS is useless, Since the TOS is suppose to only be in regards to the site itself and use of the site.

    Should probably put some kind of form validation on the contact form.

    Many pages rendered very slowly on an iPhone.

    Explanation for name changing would make me not want to hire, suspect something more than is given. I would just say we changed our name and leave it at that. " formerly known as logans painting" would be plenty.

    Should probably reword the guarantee " some work", make me think " some" could be applied to pretty much anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Roe, post: 228842
    I dislike the tables and inline styles. The overall look isn't bad. The photo of the painter is really low quality and looks completely out of place, as is the Facebook like button. You're using images where you should be just using text and CSS.

    Basically, what I'm saying is that the car has a nice body, but an outdated engine under the hood.
    Each page is completely different than the last. Why would I waste time putting all of the CSS into a "main.css" stylesheet when I can just edit the one single page? An external stylesheet is used to make a developers job easy, in that they only have to update one file to change the entire site. In my case, this isn't applicable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webzarus, post: 228848
    TOS is useless, Since the TOS is suppose to only be in regards to the site itself and use of the site.

    Should probably put some kind of form validation on the contact form.

    Many pages rendered very slowly on an iPhone.

    Explanation for name changing would make me not want to hire, suspect something more than is given. I would just say we changed our name and leave it at that. " formerly known as logans painting" would be plenty.

    Should probably reword the guarantee " some work", make me think " some" could be applied to pretty much anything.
    Wrong, wrong and wrong! I think you need to take a giant leap back and read the TOS on our site. Not only does it protect our IP information, but it also claims the certain services we offer - in a legal form.

    As far as the iPhone goes... I understand people are utilizing phones to visit websites on a daily basis, however, if someone is dead set on hiring a painter to complete a job, they aren't going to use an iPhone.

    Also, in regards to the "some work" guarantee, we do ONLY guarantee SOME work completed within a contract. If your house burns down due to a cooking fire, we're not going to replace the paint job under warranty. It's as simple as that. Generalizations are interpreted incorrectly - ALWAYS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Yurlov, post: 228847
    If you wanted to completely redesign it why not redesign with div's? Seems like a missed opportunity to me..... I really like the design though. If you convert to div's I think the site will do just fine.
    Being different and unorthodox is my style. There's no two ways about it! If tables work, and look great for my site, then they'll stay that way. I appreciate the input, but I'm not converting the entire site to Divs just to please someone who's not even associated with the business. There has yet to be any proof that tables affect SEO in a negative manner. Look it up, prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Roe, post: 228842
    I dislike the tables and inline styles. The overall look isn't bad. The photo of the painter is really low quality and looks completely out of place, as is the Facebook like button. You're using images where you should be just using text and CSS.

    Basically, what I'm saying is that the car has a nice body, but an outdated engine under the hood.
    Ohhhhh, I also forgot to mention. Haven't you heard of the "alt" tag for an image in html? Isn't is a known fact that this is used by search engines? How about used by search engines to acquire text information about a certain image? From the primitive days of the search engines, they have always been capable of picking up alt text on any given page, then applying that to their overall report of the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DropPaint, post: 228852
    Ohhhhh, I also forgot to mention. Haven't you heard of the "alt" tag for an image in html? Isn't is a known fact that this is used by search engines? How about used by search engines to acquire text information about a certain image? From the primitive days of the search engines, they have always been capable of picking up alt text on any given page, then applying that to their overall report of the site.
    Yeah, and I'm sure h# tags don't carry just a bit more weight...

    Oh, and I forgot to mention: text downloads way faster than images. Not that you're too concerned about page load speed...

    Try not to get your panties in a bunch. You asked for a review, and I gave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DropPaint, post: 228849
    Each page is completely different than the last. Why would I waste time putting all of the CSS into a "main.css" stylesheet when I can just edit the one single page? An external stylesheet is used to make a developers job easy, in that they only have to update one file to change the entire site. In my case, this isn't applicable.
    Read what you wrote again, carefully. You kinda contradict yourself.
    Even if each page is completely different, and there's no conceivable way you could reuse any of the styles, the CSS file is already downloaded on the user's machine, so they don't have to wait for the inline styles to load along with the mess of tables.
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