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    Now, what is the difference between an amateur and
    professional website, the hosting perhaps? Or the way
    that it's built? Or the purpose of it?

    I'm sure there is a right explanation for it, or a great
    definition someone can come up with (Bring it up!).

    But if you're talking about the design that is professional,
    should it be an ICT grad student that has created the design?
    Can't a common housewife (that's not me) create a page that is just
    as good as: http://www.mycom.nl (dutch computer store) or
    something like it? Can she say she is a professional webbuilder
    or should she say her website is professional?

    I'm kinda confused about all this, where is the border
    between professional websites and amateur websites?

    Now where is this all about...
    My website: http://www.supersheep.tk
    I'm trying to create a mix between an amateur and professional
    feel(I guess it worked out to be more amateur than professional).

    Take a look at the colours, the fonts the introduction page and
    content(and subject). Maybe it's because I've created it and can't judge right about my site, what do you people here think
    about it? I keep having the feeling that something is terribly wrong with my site and that something should change (just paranoid?).
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy and the tallest guy in the National Basketball Association is Chinese."

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    The site appears to be hosted on free webspace (Geocities) with web forwarding for the domain... this will not help with search engines etc. as they will not be able to read the page content... in addition, it prevents visitors bookmarking anything but the front page.

    But onto the content itself... my main concerns would be...
    a) the red on black button text... I find it very hard to read.
    b) There are parts of the site where the font is defaulting to Times New Roman... I would avoid using serif fonts at all if possible. Sans serif (eg. Verdana) tend to give a more professional look.
    c) Consider css. Your pages are full of font tags at present. Not only will it make the site look more attractive (and more consistent) it will make managing it later far easier.
    d) Your framed forwarding... the noframes tags are empty... is this really what you want? It would seem more logical to me to have a redirect in this case, ideally transparent to the user (ie. no "You do not have frames... click here" to alert your visitor to the fact)
    e) I do not have a non-Flash enabled browser to hand. How does the site cope if visitors do not have flash? I would be inclined to provide some form of alternative navigation (perhaps at the foot of the page)
    f) ...and talking of the foot of the page, it doesn't have one. Because there is no consistent look and feel to the bottom of the page the pages feel like they are somehow incomplete... as if the text just stops before it is supposed to. I would be inclined to have something there, even if it is just a copyright message in a small font -- perhaps on a background image repeating your silver theme (?)
    g) "Newsbox"... Inline frame... hmmm... I would avoid inline frames at all costs. Not only are they ugly, they are not supported by all browsers. I would be inclined to print your top two or three news items then provide a hyperlink to news archives. Keep it simple -- the visitors will thank you for it.

    Sean

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    Thank you for the information, I'll try to add/change
    some stuff...
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy and the tallest guy in the National Basketball Association is Chinese."

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    I thought being a pro just meant that you were payed to do it and amature is someone that does it for a hobby?

    *reminds self to get flash plug-in for Mozilla*
    Nothing to see here

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    uuuuhm....guess so...
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy and the tallest guy in the National Basketball Association is Chinese."

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    Producing a professional design has nothing to do with whether you are being paid... it is to do with many factors, probably the least of which is your programming skill... the major difference between professional websites and amateur websites lie in the usability, the accessibility (eg. for those without the latest browsers or the disabled), the thought that has gone into the navigation and the content itself.

    Also worth bearing in mind that in this day and age website design and website programming is often carried out by different people... most enterprise web applications will be designed by specialists in graphic design who probably wouldn't know anything about programming, and similarly the HTML/css gurus who code the site may have no eye for colour etc. at all.

    However, when someone calls themselves a "Professional Website Designer" they may not actually be either designing at all. The term is very mis-used... often it simply means that you make a living from "website design". Does not necessarily mean that you produce professional websites, though God help your customers if you don't ;-)

    That's my understanding, anyway.

    Sean

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    I think you make a very good point there
    and agree with what you say.

    Over 2 short years I'll be studying website design
    and such on the VU Amsterdam university. Hope
    I'll be a "Professional Website Designer" producing
    "professional websites" then...

    Cheers(No I'm dutch, LOL)
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy and the tallest guy in the National Basketball Association is Chinese."

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    Hm, that mycom site actually doesnt look professional to me (helemaal niet zelfs), het volgende krijg je in nederlands das makkelijker voor mij...

    teken je in Flash? al die gradients zien er niet uit, die buttons ook niet eigenlijk

    die gele letters staan niet, en...en....AAAH

    ik zou het niet weten :P

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    Uh, the mycom site doesn't look all that professional
    to you? Well, you sure have a strange look on these things...

    anyway, you're right...my site is all crappy and stuff,
    I'm too lazy with replacing all the menu's I've
    created a few years ago and redesign it.
    (Just add some new content once in a month and
    that's all about it). And gradience is what all beginners
    like to use right?

    Well, redesign is what I certainly will...
    (He, I all know what ya think, that I'm lying like
    hell when I say the menu is from a few years ago...
    yeah yeah that's what they all say...I swear it's
    true!)

    And if you didn't understood the previous text:

    Hm, that mycom site actually doesnt look professional to me (Not at all)

    Do you draw in flash? all that gradience looks awful,
    and those buttons too

    those yellow colors don't fit, and...and...aaah

    I don't know it anymore :P
    Maybe I should translate instead of
    building webpages...LOL
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy and the tallest guy in the National Basketball Association is Chinese."

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    In the most basic essence of the word, "professional" means it is your line of work (i.e. you get paid to do it), while "amateur" means "lover of" (i.e. hobbyist).

    If you extrapolate the meaning of each of those, though, a "professional", who supposedly gets paid to do his work, should be able to do something better than a hobbyist... so the quality should be superior. Also, the services he uses to display his portfolio should be top-notch as well, so the "professional" should have paid hosting and domain name services.


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