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    My company's site has an "online account access" feature that opens in a popup window. We use a popup primarily for design reasons but also to help prevent users from using the back button or keeping the session open longer than necessary. However, the advent of the "popup stopper" is increasingly becoming an issue.

    The obvious solution is to simply not use popups, but that's really not an option at this point.

    I'm just kinda venting I guess. Anyone else find the popup stopper to get in your way? And what's the consensus on using popups anyway? When used appropriately, they come in handy. Thoughts?

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    IMO popups should never be used except for small informational windows that open only when content links are clicked. Other than that they're intrusive and annoying.
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    Not to dispute your opinion, but how is a popup intrusive and annoying if it is simply used as a substitute for target="_blank"? The content that is being displayed comes from our mainframe which is not very easy to work with.

    I also use popups when displaying pdf's since the acrobat viewer already has its own toolbar.

    In general I agree...popups are fast becoming the bane of the web. You can't go anywhere without unwanted crap in your face.

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    I hate sites that have pop ups... gernally if I see a site Im visiting and they have at least one pop up on every page I'm gone. The only pop ups nessisary are the ones that filburt said... "only when content links are clicked". I don't really care if I see a banner because it's not something I have to click away.

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    Matt, I'm not referring to popup ads or windows that popup with the page load.

    To use filburt's example again...if you use a popup "only when content links are clicked" and the user has a popup stopper program running, nothing is going to happen. The window won't open. So in cases where popups are desirable, these stupid little 3rd party programs that probably include spyware themselves end up being a hinderance to good programmers who are not using popups for evil.

    I totally agree with you on the annoyance factor. It can get out of control sometimes. Here's a great example of an awesome site that kills you with popups...
    www.howstuffworks.com

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    using a popup won't stop users using the back button.

    if they right click in the window they get a back option.

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    i know...but it helps.

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    dinologic: If by "online account access" you mean a login and password page, a properly designed site can have a page that is just a login/password form. There's nothing wrong with that. You also avoid the risk of crashing the user's machine (second browser windows can take up excessive RAM, especially on older machines), of annoying people with popup windows, and with popup software killing it. I've done a bunch of sites and never once had a popup or second window for any purpose other than linking to an external site other than the one I was working on.

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    I know as long as the pop-up is not an advertisement; I usually am not bothered by them. I really don't think they ever would have become a signficant annoyance if the entire Internet community hadn't implemented 2 or 3 of them for ads on webpages. This is especially bad in a Windows environment, where a user might be attempting to browse 2 differnt sites at once, and a popup not only inactivates the active window but brings the second webpage up in front. When this happens 3 times in 10 seconds, its effect grows exponentially.

    I believe as pop-up software becomes more powerful it will be able to better discriminate between ad popups & functional windows. Until then, I will use alternative methods for functional popups.


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